Oh the Bad Movies & TV You’ll Watch!

37 thoughts on “Oh the Bad Movies & TV You’ll Watch!”

1. Marco Polo is boring me. I gave it two and a half episodes. No one ever developed a personality. I hear it gets better later on but … do I want to invest hours of my time just to find out? :P

   1. Zactly. Time is valuable! Boring flicks aren’t worth it.

   2. It does get better later on if you skip the Marco parts and just watch the Chinese characters.

      1. Shouldn’t a show CALLED Marco Polo have an INTERESTING Marco Polo?

         The writing disconnect there just shocks me.

         1. I was very surprised that Marco ended up being the least interesting character when the show was suppose to be about him.

   3. I know people hate being told things like this, but I SWEAR it gets better after the first four episodes. Those writers never come back, and it’s a ton less male gazey.

      1. If it takes that long to get interesting, it’s already made of fail :(

         1. I halfway suspect that they used the scripts for those episodes to get Netflix to pick it up (or maybe they were originally gunning for HBO). But it was a terrible decision on their part not to totally rewrite them.

            1. Marco Polo’s an odd one; it both gets better and worse as it goes on. Polo is insanely annoying – bland and flat – and admitted by the creators to be included solely as an introduction to eastern history for western viewers. I struggled to get into it, but the lavish costumes and several intriguing characters had me continue, despite the usual playing fast-and-loose with history (who doesn’t like a blind kung fu monk?), only one or two Mongolian actors in a cast of mainly Mongolian characters, and not being filmed in Mongolia.

               That being said, I don’t think the FF ladies would like it – after reading many posts, if you’d allow me to presume, I’d say it’s not their thing. ‘Male gaze’, battles, a mostly male cast, loose history, costumes outside their preferred milieu… It’s not worth it.

2. Stealing Heaven. Good interesting story in a historical setting but a meh for costuming.
   The Knick, how many bloody coats can you see on screen?

   1. We gave The Knick a try, but yeah … https://frockflicks.com/knick-hotties-graphic-surgery/

   2. I want to force Sarah to watch Stealing Heaven for the bad hair and unfortunate bigginses!

3. Apparently, the story in “The Devil’s Violinist” was basically true, and the music was fantastic, but the sum was NOT equal to the whole of the parts.
   “The Black Rose” was on TV recently. Made in 1950, it got an Oscar for Best Costume-Color for Michael Whittaker. But the heroine’s hair and makeup were so very 1950’s. The Asian costuming seemed spot on, but the English period stuff, with the yoked shirts….
   Unfortunately for Murdoch, early 20th century clothing just isn’t very exciting — but that’s not what the show is about. And really, if you hate a particular type of show, perhaps you should delegate the review to someone else,.

   1. We’ve reviewed a ton of early 20th-c costume dramas (hi, Downton Abbey!). Murdoch appears to be aiming for late 19th-c. or turn of the 20th century, which is can be a fabulous period for costuming. But the series doesn’t do much with it. If it *did* that might make up for the mysteries being meh. And none of us are super into murder-mysteries (note the dearth of coverage on the whole site), but ppl keep suggesting we review them. If the costumes are AMAZING that could make it worthwhile tho :)

   2. I really like Murdoch Mysteries, especially that it reflects Canada as it slowly moves from being British to being Canadian (and the Newfoundland episodes are a hoot!), but Julia’s hair drives me nuts.
      Not only is it too 21st century messy for the period, but she’s a damn doctor. No excuse for having hair dropping all over the corpses.
      I like that the dresses repeat from episode to episode. Probably as much the low costume department budgets of Canadian TV, but also a reflection of how little clothing people owned at the time.

4. I’d like to suggest “Hazard of Hearts.” Where Diana Rigg dies from pure evil and Helena Bonham-Carter’s constant stinkface is in overdrive (Don’t get me wrong, I love her, but girl looks like she’s just smelled a fart ALL. THE. TIME.)

   The costuming (Regency, or a polyester version thereof) is really bad. And the acting is wretched. But it IS based on a Barbara Cartland novel so it’s to be expected.

   1. Yup, this one has to be seen to be believed. A snark week candidate for sure!

5. The Robert Downey “Holmes” flicks are mildly entertaining steam punk buddy movies with inappropriately named characters. They have *nothing* to do with the masterworks of Conan Doyle.

   1. I very much agree. These are not Doyle’s characters at all.

   2. Hear, hear! Fun and funny and campy but NOT Conan Doyle.

6. Have you guys checked out Doctor Thorne yet?

   1. The only one I’ve heard of *literally* just aired in the UK, so nope, it hasn’t reached us yet!

      1. That’s the one. You all are much more patient than I am. I can’t be bothered to wait until a show gets over here.

7. May I make a suggestion for a review? It’s the film that brought us such incredible lines as: ‘Have fun storming the castle, ‘Incredible’, ‘You seem like a decent fellow…’, ‘As you wish’ and my all-time favourite, ‘My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die.’. Yes. The Princess Bride.

   1. As much as we all love it, The Princess Bride is a straight-up fantasy story (we checked!), & we’re here for historicals. Altho’ we’ve touched on it a few times, such as here: https://frockflicks.com/st-crispins-day/

   2. Not incredible. It’s inconceivable. I do not think that word means what you think it means.

8. Diana Rigg and HBC in the same film? Woo-woo! Rigg was my goddess back in the Avengers days. Interestingly, some reviewer once referred to Steed as reminding him of a ‘Regency buck.’
   Murdoch started in 1895 and added a year each season. The appeal of the show for me is the inventions and the often jaundiced view of famous historical characters. And the romance between him and his wife. Alas, Dr. Grace has moved on.

9. I was so worried you were going to put the Lady and the Highwayman on this list. I was even preparing to spout some Barbara Castlemaine-ism in response. Thank goodness.

   Murdoch seemed very bland to me as well. I also need there to be some extra catch for procedurals – turn off the century clothing just isn’t enough.

   1. Lady & the Highwayman made it into the last Snark Week! https://frockflicks.com/snark-week-hugh-grant/

      So-bad-it’s-good-to-snark is a category we LOVE! But the “meh” historicals, not so much.

10. The historical movie I was most recently disappointed by was Renoir (2012). Full of pointless Freudian man-pain and not worth watching for the costumes, because the main female character spends the large part of the film naked/dishabille. As far as recent artist biopics go I prefer Mr. Turner (2014).

    1. Thanks for the heads up, that’s been on my “maybe” list for a while!

11. I totally agree with Sarah, I go from mildly disinterested in steampunk to full on HATE, when it gets in the way of researching Victorian or Edwardian clothing.

12. “Does he not own a comb?”

    *snerk* That’s what I think every time I see Tim Minchin perform. I do love his comedy, but the man needs a comb. And conditioner.

13. Either or both – fantastic costumes can lift up a mediocre plot, while a riveting plot can make up for average costumes. But look at our intro to this post: ultimately, they’re “weak tea.”

    And it’s our opinion (bec. this is our blog!). You can judge them however you like!

14. What about CASANOVA (Heath Ledger) and DANGEROUS BEAUTY (Catherine McCormack) I love both these movies, both set in Venezia. No idea if the costumes pass muster with the pros, tho ;-D

    1. Search our site — you’ll find them both covered already!

15. I was so excited for The Devil’s Violinist, and alas…so disappointed. David Garrett is a musician, not an actor. In an interview he as much admitted that he wasn’t overly concerned with the acting in this movie. He did justice to Paganini’s music, but not to his story. The Man in the Iron Mask was a hot mess–on many levels, but in my opinion the elder statesmen Musketeers saved the day! I agree with everything you said regarding Marco Polo. What a disappointment! I like some murder mystery procedurals, but Murdoch Mysteries just didn’t have an umph–costume-wise and plot-wise. Robert Downey Jr as Sherlock Holmes, I loved those movies. I never thought of the costumes as borderline steampunk, but since you pointed it out, I can totally see it. I also agree with you that Robert Downey, Jr. wearing nothing but a pillow is fabulous! I’d like to uncover that mystery, for sure!

Comments are closed.