SNARK WEEK RECAP: Napoleon and Josephine: A Love Story (1987) – Part 1

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1. Actually the Bonaparte Mom’s hairdo reminded me about this portrait of the princess Stephanie, that was the wife of Rudolf von Habsburg Lothringen, the one of Mayerling notoriety. The pic was done in eighties of 19th century. https://austria-forum.org/attach/Biographien/Stephanie%2C_Kronprinzessin/Stephanie%2C_Kronprinzessin1.jpg

   1. Another good contender!

2. You gotta pretty please show Josephine meeting the Bonaparte mom and filles — especially Pauline who had a thing for brother Napoleon. And yes, this is a train wreck waiting to happen. Although I wished the casting powers would have switched actresses playing Therese and Josephine.

3. Ah, this doozie. Another entry in the “We want to make a film about Napoléon but don’t really have the budget for battle scenes so we’ll pay lip service to his actual profession and pretend his love life is what’s most important.” (The battle scenes in this series are recycled footage from bigger budget movies, often used wildly inappropriately.)

   The uniforms do have the “high school play” fit about them – lord knows what that first uniform is going for. It’s funny you mention the trim on his hat, because that’s not accurate. Even at the time, Napoléon (or “Buonaparte/Bonaparte” as he was called then), was in the habit of ripping the gold trim off of his bicorn so as to make it stand out. Yes, the paintings are wrong haha.

   He did at the time have long hair. Two first hand descriptions mention his hair as “unpowdered” and “fell down over his shoulders”. I agree with your snarking of how this series interpreted that. I think other depictions of young Napoléon did it far better.

   As for the first episode, you have to love their depiction of the 13 Vendémiaire, showing Napoléon stoically advancing on a Royalist artillery barricade with explosions all around him. Although the Royalist insurrection was well armed, they did not employ artillery in their attack. Quite the opposite, the Royalists advanced on the Republican’s barrages of grapeshot. For all of its faults, the 2002 mini-series Napoléon got it a lot closer.

   1. I was lol’ing at Napoleon running into the fray — didn’t military leaders, like, tell the troops what to do? Not go charging like a Viking?

      1. In this specific case, yes, it was the opposite of what’s shown: Royalists advancing on the Republican’s fixed position, under Bonaparte.

         For the rest of Napoléon’s life, it gets complicated. Before the 13 Vendémiaire, at Toulon, Napoléon personally lead the assault on the British fortification “Little Gibraltar”, engaging in hand-to-hand combat with British marines. He was stabbed in the thigh by a bayonet or spontoon. His autopsy confirmed this injury among others. Napoléon later started to lead the charge across Arcole Bridge before a subordinate dive tackled him into a ditch.

         Generally, like a lot of generals he preferred a fixed point, but the more desperate the situation became, the more willing Napoléon was to get close to the action. He might as well have napped through Jena, the situation so firmly under French control. Conversely, Napoléon personally sighted (aimed) a battery of cannon during Montereau (1814). At Arcis-sur-Aube (1814), Napoléon intentionally rode his horse over an exploding howitzer shell to shield panicking soldiers from the explosion. It killed his horse but he emerged unscathed, the shell having killed no human targets. During the early stages of Aspern-Essling (1809), Napoléon’s dear friend Marshal Lannes tripped and fell into the raging Danube River. Without a second thought Napoléon jumped in after him, swimming them both to safety.

         So long and varied was his career that he was sometimes close to the action. But this series got it their specifics funnily backwards.

         1. Wow- thank you for that. Extremely interesting.

            1. Cheers!

   2. That first uniform actually wouldn’t have looked all that bad (I mean in terms of general in-period believability as opposed to “the exact uniform he would have been wearing at that date”) if only someone had bothered to mitre the corners of the gold lace, which is actually dead easy to do. It’s really surprising how much things like that matter: people who have no idea how gold lace ought to be applied (and why should they?) subconsciously register that it has just been crudely bodged on.

4. Oh, God! What I vaguely remember from my childhood was Armand Assante was hot. I still think so. That mullet…hey I was a kid! Jaqueline Bisset is so beautiful I could scream. But in my mind I thought Isabella Rossellini played Josephine. So, now I have to go down an Internet rabbit hole to find out what I’m thinking of. Can’t wait for the rest of the Snark on this one. Also, I loved the cross-references of actors and some of their other credits.

   1. Rossellini played Josephine in 2002!

      https://frockflicks.com/wcw-empress-josephine/

5. That one pic of Stephanie Beacham (in the fur coat) looks like it’s from The Colbys. In my defense, I only watched it because I had a mad crush on Ricardo Montalban. :)

6. Lmao “Man with erection.” Thank you for the laugh. I needed it today!

7. I know this is tacky, trashy Dynasty à la Empire trash, but I loved it, loved it, loved it to itty bitty pieces and I thought that Stephanie Beachum the most fabulous thing (still do, in fact).

   I will die on this hill.

   1. You are totally welcome to love it!

8. FYI… Tarot cards… any cards!… were not used for fortune telling until later in the 19th century. Tarot cards were used to play games, like “Triumphs”.

9. Some of the costumes look pretty good; I guess they didn’t want to go super stripey but Robespierre looked decently like the painting. But what on earth with that pink floral thing? Also, I can’t say I know a lot about Josephine, but the whole pass the aristocratic widow (I presume) around thing is bizarre. I hope it’s not true, although I can understand some desperate choices on her part. The painting of Josephine in the blue dress is quite lovely, so there was clearly plenty to work with…

10. The white dress from the scene where Eugene attempts to return the sword is see-through and holy hell the cleavage. I feel really bad for the poor teenage boy who had to act around that.

    1. Oh, don’t feel bad for young Eugène. If the actor was straight, seeing Jackie Bisset like that up close was probably one of his ahem “fondest memories” for years.

       (And if he was gay, just substitute “having a scene up close with Armand Assante in a well-fitting military uniform while you’re both handling a phallic symbol” in that “fondest memory” category.)

11. I had the good fortune many years ago to see the “Napoleon” silent film by Abel Gance. Probably more accurate than many. The poster featured the long-haired young Napoleon image. Also saw the traveling exhibit many years later. The movies can’t begin to replicate the richness of the era. But people’s preconceptions can be unshakable. Two women looking at dresses on manikins far taller than they were, assured each other that “they were much smaller then.” Josephine’s custom chalice was probably a C cup.

    1. “I had the good fortune many years ago to see the “Napoleon” silent film by Abel Gance. Probably more accurate than many.”

       Amazing piece of filmmaking and I think is so far the definitive film about Napoléon as a character. Albert Dieudonné just eerily is Napoléon, and I think only Daniel Mesguich could give him a run for his money. Shame Abel Gance only made the first part at the time; I think if he did all six*, any futher movies about Napoléon would be rendered superfluous.

       He did make *Austerlitz (1960) later… but we don’t talk about Austerlitz. Nope.

12. omg! BTW, those designs on the tarot cards didn’t appear until the end of the 19th century.
    It looks like they designed a few clothes for the series (badly) and rented a few better ones for the secondaries and extras.
    This is the Age of The Wonderbra. Miraculous things. For the first time in my life I had a cleavage. But did the glue the nips in there so they couldn’t pop out?

13. I’m guessing the series takes place in the period known as Tits Out. If that’s the case, does this take place at the same time as North and Tits Out?

14. Nice reinterpretation on the historical side! Robespierre has Napoleon imprisoned? Yeah why wouldn’t you arrest your younger brother’s friend who is a fan of yours and just got promoted to general upon your recommendation. If you are Robespierre, you just imprison everyone. Ugh.

15. They’re not on a sheer base fabric like the dress, but they’re still making shower curtains like that. Lots of attached fabric bits, heavy at the top and cascading down in diminishing numbers.

    The attached bits are really more like fan-pleated “butterflies” or “bow ties” rather than “flowers” or “petals”– but they’re similar in size and placement to the attached bits on the costume, and the curtains come in white and pastels.

    There are actually examples from a couple of different manufacturers available on two of the big internet vendors whose names both start with “Wa” and have 7 letters.

    Here are two examples (hope these links work):

    https://secure.img1-fg.wfcdn.com/im/43696822/resize-h800-w800%5Ecompr-r85/6794/67942649/Clarkstown+Solid+Color+Single+Shower+Curtain.jpg

    https://secure.img1-fg.wfcdn.com/im/97109774/resize-h1600-w1600%5Ecompr-r85/1195/119523169/Danielo+Floral+Single+Shower+Curtain.jpg

16. Those criss-crossy gold straps are trying to be “croisures a la victime”, which were dead fashionable in 1798, so are a bit previous here.
    https://www.pinterest.se/pin/169799848429395474/
    Also, as is clear from the fashion plate, the croisures were pretending to fix down the sleeves, and weren’t strapped round bare arms. Still, the costumiers didn’t totally pull the idea out of their rear ends (unlike the shower-cap-appliqué thing), so I suppose a smidgin of credit is due.

17. Hello! I must tell you that Napoleon and Josephine A Love Story is probably one of my most favorite movies, no matter what. I simply adore it (I used to have JOSFEN on my car license plate). I hear what you are saying about the accuracy of the costumes/hair/makeup, but I simply adore the movie.

    1. We snark with love! There are some total doozies that I still love! eg: https://frockflicks.com/top-5-cheesy-frock-flicks-secretly-loved/

18. I found myself chanting “tits tits tits tits” whilst scrolling.

19. That pink thing is going to give me nightmares.

20. They did Junot dirty 😟

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