21 thoughts on “SNARK WEEK: Dude, How Do I Use Buttons?

    1. Yeah, I mean that’s how the “Mr. Darcy in a wet shirt” craze got started in the 1995 production. And Elizabeth was rightly in shock from seeing a man without his coat or cravat.

    1. That was my reaction. However he would have looked just as sexy buttoned up. The other Wills didn’t look sexy at all just sloppy.

  1. For real smolder, we have the fabulous Robert Hardy as Dudley in Elizabeth R, beautifully buttoned into a variety of excellent doublets — he beats those sloppy versions all to hell!!!

  2. It might be worth mentioning Nathan Field, whose early seventeenth century portrait shows a tie at the neckline, then a clear patch of visible chest below it. True, it’s the only portrait of the era I can think of like that, and he was probably selling “New Globe’s Mr Sexy” at the time, but still…

    The Irish were believed by English folk of the period to go around bare-legged and bare-chested, and some contemporary pictures of Irishmen like that do survive, but are in all probability racist stereotyping to justify various invasions and colonialism.

    1. I didn’t get to it this Snark Week (& maybe it’s worthwhile for a non-SW post), but there’s a thing about research where you look for larger patterns & 1 or 2 outliers don’t show what was typically done.

      That’s why I included the Hilliard miniature — yes, a couple contemporary images exist but in rare situations, like a small private image. Not the common images, the portraits showing the idealized fashion, or the genre paintings showing everyday scenes.

  3. Perhaps I missed it, but I’m still waiting to hear your take on Hamnet, because I’ve been trying to figure out Agnes’ usual ensemble from photos, and running into Issues. It looks more-or-less like a sleeveless kirtle over a smock, but if that’s the case (and I can see a housewife dressing like that when doing serious housework/chasing small children), why the hell is her smock not white? (I’d say it was a long-sleeved kirtle, except that it doesn’t look as if there’s another layer under it, plus I don’t recall ever hearing about women wearing a sleeveless kirtle over a sleeved one, and gowns generally had sleeves of some kind IIRC.) Or Will’s shirt, for that matter? And that’s not even counting the severe lack of hairpins/hairlaces in the Shakespeare household–it’s one thing to have your hair down as an unmarried woman (we’ll let that pass for now), or when you’re heart-wrenchingly grief-stricken, but it looks as if it’s that way for the whole damn movie, and damn it, a married woman and mother should have at least put her hair up, and ideally would be wearing some kind of cap or coif over it! Disheveled is one thing, but no cap at all and hair left down? That particular hairstyle is one I remember distinctly from the 1970s, but I don’t know that it was around before then; either way, that’s not how she should have looked! (Sorry, but the retired SCAdian in me is damn near pulling my own hair out over this!). The extras look pretty good from what I can see, but as for the leads, well… sigh Here’s hoping Jessie wins that Oscar, and that her next Frock Flick understands Tudor layering a whole lot better!

    1. None of us have watched Hamnet bec. it’s still in theaters & we weren’t excited enough to bother! Plenty of the preview pix will turn up during Snark Week tho, if that gives you a hint of how we’re not impressed.

      Maybe when it comes to streaming? It just looks so lackluster…

    2. If you’re watching HAMNET for the frocking then avoid looking at the main characters – an apoplexy is a horrible thing to have in a theatre, however busy.

      On the other hand you will absolutely ADORE the Theatre scene and there are some other nice pieces to be observed throughout the film.

    3. Hey, she’s a free spirit, just like Jo March!

      I was so not impressed with many aspects of “Hamnet,” and I can’t wait for some Frockers’ snark.

  4. I kind of like an exposed chest under the right circumstances. Pond diving Darcy was ok, because he’s just had a long journey on horseback, and his pond is conveniently ready instead of waiting for servants to lug water upstairs and down the Pemberley corridors. The fact that he wasn’t completely exposed was what made it attractive. And I know some people hate Richard Chamberlain, but The Slipper and the Rose was released about the time I turned 16, and seeing him ride in on horseback without a waistcoat or justaucorps – sigh….. His furry chest and pretty face helped too. Ah well. I have to share my absolute favorite unexpected portrait from the Tate Britain, because it’s so bonkers and off the wall for Elizabethan England. The subject, Captain Thomas Lee, was trying to conflate himself with the warriors of ancient Greece and Rome by having himself portrayed with his bare legs as well as exposed chest. I’ve never seen anything else like it. Apparently, he was in hot water with Queenie, and this portrait was supposed to make him look humble and loyal. The interpretive text has changed a bit since the last time I was in London, but it’s still hysterical even if it is historical… https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/gheeraerts-portrait-of-captain-thomas-lee-t03028

  5. I adore Robert Dudley’s whole perfectly coordinated outfit, and even more that he seems to be about to pull some doggy treats out of his elegant belt purse for that good boy/girl patiently waiting for them! (Maybe that was his attraction for Elizabeth – he was a dog person?)

  6. Credit where it’s due, that portrait of His Late Majesty King Henry II makes him look like The Most Interesting Monarch Alive – also just a wee bit like Mr Eric Cantona in ELIZABETH.

    Mind you, you might have tripped your argument that the buttoned-up can be SEXY with the very first portrait of your selection (The Anthonis Mor): your other picks seem to be more on-the-money so far as Dapper Dans of the 16th/17th centuries go.

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