22 thoughts on “The Forsytes (2025), Episode 4

  1. Philip, Phil Bossiney, king of the wild West End…

    Seriously, this show sounds like a fever (or absinthe) dream written by someone with no understanding of the English class system. Only in the worst fanfic would Soames Forsyte give a second glance to, let alone marry, a woman with theatrical aspirations – and ballet was at the bottom of the heirarchy of performing arts. It’s sad to see Susan Hampshire involved in such a travesty.

  2. I’m enjoying reading the recaps because I absolutely refuse to watch this garbage. The 2005 version is available on Netflix so I think I’ll re-watch that instead.

  3. Susan Hampshire’s dress is a great replica of a dress from the portrait of Mrs James Leigh Coleman (1886) by Raimundo de Madrazo. One of my favourite dresses of all time, I would recognize it anywhere!

  4. I’m trying to like this series, really I am, But the lack of bobby-pins is wearing thin, for me at least!

  5. Come to that, aren’t the ballerinas totally the wrong body type for dancers of the period? Balanchine type rather than 1870s. Just compare Moira Shearer in THE RED SHOES to today’s dancers to see how much they’ve changed since the 1940s.

    Hairpins? What are these hairpins of which you speak?

  6. Ha, the absinthe scene is exactly where I hit stop and went to the kitchen to top off my tea (I could have used some absinthe myself by that point, I might have started getting a bit blustery when the Davy Crockett hat showed up).

    I do intend to keep watching it though, and just imagine them as a different family, because I do really like some of the costumes and set designs. I love the scenes with Ann and June, I think having the oldest and younger members of the family share scenes was a good choice, even if June should really share more scenes with her grandfather. Or step-grandfather, I should say, because that had to be changed for no reason; I miss the lonely old Jolyon of the books and previous adaptations.

    1. I wonder how old Jolyon’s death scene will be handled – it’s so heart-rending in the book and previous TV adaptations.

      1. I can’t imagine, but apparently it’s been approved for 2 more seasons, so I guess we’ll have to just wait and see!

        1. NOOOOOOO! That might well take us all the way up to Soames’ death. It wouldn’t surprise me if the writers have both he and Fleur die in the fire. Actually I wouldn’t be surprised if Fleur somehow ends up marrying Jon instead of Michael Mont…

          1. I just can’t get past trying to imagine them aging up the actors who play Soames and Irene and young Jolyon. And I don’t think I’ll be shedding any tears, this time, when young Jo passes away (tears of laughter, maybe. I have been entertained, although not in the way the show creators probably imagined)

  7. This was exactly my problem with the hats, they are essentially all wearing the same hat with different trims. It is period appropriate and a decent shape, and they are all wearing hats, but some variety would have been nice.

  8. The actress who plays Winifred is lovely and looks right at home in late Victorian costume. Jo, not so much. Someone in the Reddit period drama group pointed out that he looks like George Michael in the Careless Whisper era, and I can’t unsee it.

    1. Speaking of Winnifred, isn’t she supposed to have a son? A son who’s pretty important to the later plot? Have they mentioned, “So-and-so is enjoying Eton,” or did they just forget about him?

      1. There’s so much invented nonsense in this adaptation it’s possible there’s no room for the Val/Holly sub-plot!

  9. Idk if it’s just how the 80s were or if filmmakers have a gripe with this era, but my goodness why does every modern production set in this period look like they are forbidden from using fabrics with a body and some good lining to give it a life of it’s own, some of the fitted jackets almost look like made of tissue paper. Fitted =\= thin fabric historically

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