24 thoughts on “SNARK WEEK: Cold Shoulders Leave Me Cold

  1. Ugh, I hate the modern cold shoulders fad with the fire of thousand suns, so to see it weasel its way into “historical” films is just too much. :P
    Also, P&P and Zombies was a painful experience, I’m with you there!

    1. Exactly! Most of the time it would look better as either off the shoulder or regular long sleeves. It’s like people think that but of skin makes it a bit sexy but like, it just looks awkward.

  2. As soon as I found out that Knightfall was produced by Domenic Minghella, who also produced the 2006 Robin Hood, I decided to give it a miss.

  3. I think I saw that Camelot dress pattern in a late-90s Simplicity costume catalog. sigh I get what they were going for here, but the cold shoulder is soooo off (no pun intended).

    1. The Knightfall photo is hilarious! The chair armrests aren’t that noticeable and it looks like they’re all trying to get air into their armpits or something. Which given the amount of dead dino in their costumes may be legit. Also wishing I had the Photoshop skills to put each ofthem on an ape bar Harley.

  4. I think the movie costume idea of off-the-shoulder gowns in the Middle Ages can be laid at the doorstep of the illuminated Bible of Wenceslas IV, (1389). Setting aside the many bathhouse attendants depicted, there are several instances of close-fitting OTS gowns. In the illuminations available on line it is hard to see if there are chemises worn underneath but the OTS gowns are distinctly outerwear.



    Mind you, the woman depicted wearing the OTS clothes in these samples is Delilah so that may have some bearing. Still, OTS gowns do seem to be a Bohemian fashion in the late 14th C.


    1. 1) I seriously doubt the folks involved in any of these productions knew about that research. 2) Those are also exceptional styles, not the standard, most common styles of the period. Let’s face it, these historical TV shows/movies are totally inspired by modern 20th/21st-century fashion!

  5. And remember, ladies didn’t shave. Our fear of any kind of hair is fairly recent. But that doesn’t mean it was shown, neither in fashion or IN PAINTINGS (there’s a painting at the Musée d’Orsay that never fails to make me laugh: it’s called “La Vérité” by Bougereau. Well, might be Truth, but there’s nary a armpit or pubic hair…in fact there’s no need for pubic hair since there’s nothing there! Some truth!)… Anyway, it must have been a bit iffy in the brocade, methinks. All the best reason to keep all that closed, and with a CHEMISE, Godammit!

    1. The failure of art critic Joseph Ruskin’s marriage is attributed to his shock at finding out that his wife had body—especially pubic—hair. He had never seen such things in classical paintings and statues and couldn’t understand why his wife had hair on anything other than her head. She was lucky enough to run off with a man who understood her body for what it was.

  6. Gag. Vomit…that’s what these – except PP&Z which I liked- OTS dresses make me want to do.

  7. HAHAHA The Tudors dress was actually from Dangerous Beauty, but you only saw it on Veronica when she is sitting down. They reused SOOO many dresses from DB when making that show. It actually is a fun game to spot the rental. It happened in every season that a main character would wear at least one dress from DB.

    And the 3rd Da Vinci dress is from Ever After. Gotta love it when the costume department just gives up.

  8. I find cold shoulder shirts and dresses annoying and silly for the most part. Then I had misplaced luggage and bought a shirt not knowing it had a slit on the sleeve—mere moments after I’d given a short rant in the store on how much I hated them. Oops. :-)

    Weirdly though I was looking up 1890s last night and I spotted a photo from the period with a cold shoulder look! I was shocked. Naturally I can’t find it now, but I did find this fashion plate with a different cold should style in an evening dress. http://www.vintagevictorian.com/images/1898del_3_s.jpg

    That doesn’t justify any of these looks though. I was just surprised by it.

  9. Cold shoulders are good for old ladies who want to feel youthful. After about 50-60, the chicken wings set in, but the shoulders still look good. So, long sleeved is good (holds in the flapping) and cold-shoulders for oomph.

    (Not that I’m speaking from experience or anything–nah, I just live to be a horrible example– sleeveless in the summer)

    But, you will find these tops in catalogs that cater to women of a certain age.

  10. Oh, god, the stuff those “Tudors” costumers gave Katherine Howard is even worse than I remember. (I think I just blocked the images, and concentrated on poor K.H. acting as if she were about to ask Henry for a ride to the Hampton Shopping Centre to hang with her besties.)

    The modern bare-shoulder look in wedding dresses also drives me mad: sweet young things trying to carry off frocks only Lena Horne or Ava Gardner could manage.

  11. You are correct, the dress pictured on your still of Katherine Howard from the Tudors is wearing a recycled costume from Dangerous Beauty.

  12. Knightfall is rough costume wise. It gets worse for Isabella, and queen joan’s drop-shoulders are even worse.

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