14 thoughts on “The Forsytes (2025), Episode 5

  1. All the women wearing their hair down for the most part is killing me. And Irene wanting to be a ballet dancer? Someone should let her know that ballet dancers get paid nothing (especially then) and it wasn’t really a thing in England until the 20th century when the Royal Ballet was created.

    1. I’ve studied ballet for 15 odd years. Loose hair is a big no-no, as that will fly in your face whenever you turn. Locks of hair in your eyeballs isn’t attractive, no matter what the hair and makeup designer says.

      1. Same. Years of ballet. No one wore their hair down and loose for the classes. They have some strange ideas about hair in this adaptation.

        1. There are ballets meant to be done with hair down. The one that comes to mind first is the Romeo and Juliet bedroom pas de deux (which I’ve seen both up and down), and of course Giselle’s mad scene, but there are plenty of contemporary ballets where the hair being down is part of the choreography.

          1. Also the two bedroom pas de deuxes and the final pas de deux in Mayerling have the hair down as well.

          2. I’ve never seen it in a ballet class, not a serious ballet school anyway. Maybe for rehearsals and performances for a select role. And contemporary is just that – contemporary, not late 19th century.

    2. Ballet in England at this time was something you’d see on a music hall bill or in pantomime. The decision to make Irene an aspiring ballerina is bizarre. Nothing in the novel suggests that Irene was anything more than a talented amateur pianist who made a living as a piano teacher between her two marriages. The 1967 TV version had her briefly study piano in Paris but lack the confidence to aim for a career, which was one of the reasons she eventually accepted Soames’ proposal of marriage.

  2. Ballet fan/nerd here. Everything related to Irene and ballet here is wrong. Her pointe shoes are too modern, she is in a tutu in the class. Won’t mention the hair again, otherwise I’d go ballistic. The performance they see with Soames in Paris is contemporary (for us today) with modern leotards, tights and chiffon skirts.
    The plot keeps on showing us that Irene is serious about ballet, about making it her profession. And at the same time, she never follows the ballet rules with that hair! And ballet is a discipline which is deep in the bones of every dancer who is serious about ballet.

  3. Ann and Francis look as lovely as usual, but at this point, I just hope these dresses reappear in worthier productions someday. And I’m reading the books now, which has left me scratching my head even more, over some of the changes.

  4. I love the books too much to watch this travesty, but I must say I am delighted by the casting of Steven Moyer and (the criminally underused) Jack Davenport as brothers. I first encountered them as cop best friends/antagonists in the slick vampire series Ultraviolet.

    1. We did a few memes, but the show didn’t premiere in the US until now. Also, PBS actually gave us screeners (a first!), so we’re able to recap more easily. Lastly, lighten up! The costumes are solidly within the historical era, & the story is a soap opera, which is not a knock. If you read my recaps, you’ll see where I critique & praise this one in equal measure, as appropriate. Of course, I’m not a big fan of the original novels, & while I enjoyed the 2000s adaption, it’s not sacrosanct either.

  5. I can’t take Jolyon seriously. He looks like a 2020s underwear model in his mid-to-late 20s and the same age as June or Bosinney. I’m trying, I promise! Frances has more chemistry with Stephen Moyer. Since the show runners are already going with “inspired by” and not “adaptation”, can we get some Frances/Old Jolyon scandal power couple instead?

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