19 thoughts on “Further Thoughts on Firebrand (2023)

  1. I love love love that they had a go at the white bands.

    And huge respect for Jude Law for that saggy bum shot. It was gross and perfect.

  2. Overall I thought the costumes were gorgeous and I want to see the actress who played Elizabeth in more things (especially period pieces). My only minor nitpick/confusion is the decision to seemingly lighten Alicia Vikander’s eyebrows, despite keeping the rest of her hair close to or at its natural shade? In certain lighting it gave the impression that Katherine was kickstarting the bleached brows trend several centuries early.

  3. Loved the costumes and thought Jude did make a good Henry but I was very upset by the plot turn in the end. That did not happen! All who watched will know what I mean.

  4. Wasn’t there a Warrant issued for Katherine Parr’s arrest at one point that she sweet-talked Henry out of by getting into his chamber before they were able to serve it on her? Or was that a PFG invention?

    Have you had ‘The Mirror and the Light’ over there yet? We just have one episode to go in the UK.

    1. Yes, there was a warrant and that was the big drama of her life (minus all her post-Henry stuff), but the filmmakers apparently didn’t think that was dramatic enough so had her actually imprisoned in a literal dungeon-y jail cell.

      We don’t get Wolf Hall til late March and we’re all on the edge of our seats!

      1. That bloody cell and the unqueenly wardrobe! Queens had proper apartments, gowns, and servants in the Tower, whatever they had supposedly done. A really fine young Elizabeth, though, and wondrous costuming throughout.

    2. Maybe. The story comes from exactly one source, Edward Hall the protestant polemicist. Something apparently happened, there are ambassadorial reports of a coolness between the King and Queen, but NO corroboration for the whole drama of near arrest and reconciliation. In fact Henry and Katherine got a long very well, apart from that one rough spot that may have just been court gossip. And Katherine wrote some surprisingly convincing love letters to Henry.

  5. You posted a screengrab of Henry in hose and a jacket, and all that I could see was a right-wing dad wearing saggy chinos and a leather varsity jacket. He looks like a men’s rights schmuck on his way to the golf course. I love it.

  6. Having seen this film my first thought was that the Look was gorgeous, the performances were sound (Mr Jude Law was Scary Perfect as King Henry, radiating the “WTF will he do next?” energy I associate with Great Harry, something that I felt Mr Damien Lewis only sporadically tapped into in WOLF HALL, though he really, really really owns it in THE MIRROR AND THE LIGHT*, even if his take on the role felt a bit TOO vulgar), that I was deeply relieved Carlos made it through the film intact and that the script was quite howling it stupid at points (Or at least wilfully ignorant of the more likely consequences to the risks Queen Catherine was shown to take throughout the film).

    Not my favourite Tudor film, but it has it’s
    points.

    *I may not be the Best audience for this series: my reaction to last episode’s conclusion was “Cromwell is Down, Cromwell is DOWN!” and a little dance of excitement.

  7. Also, I forgot to mention: some of the weird plot twists in this film become a lot more plausible when you reflect that, while she looks sensible, Queen Catherine actually chose to marry Thomas ‘Whoops, I shot the King’s dog’ Seymour, apparently of her own free will.

    Which, it should be admitted, suggests that the lady wasn’t nearly as wise as was intelligent.

  8. I think the white bands go all the way down at the back cuz the movie designer interpreted them as skirt harness to pull up the train.
    If one looks closely at the famous Holbein portrait of a Tudor lady front and back view, the white shoulder band is visible and on the back it disappears into the shoulder V. It could be just a decorative bit or more appropriately, a “nominal” shawl worn out of etiquette rather than a definite purpose much like a modern day tie worn with high buttoned shirts. Similar nominal shoulder draping features in Italian Renaissance portraiture albeit made of sable and called zibellino, the lace tippet pieces draped loosely over neck (not tacked to the neckline unlike tucker) in mid 18th century portraiture and the “tippet” of fur or lace mandated in the court wear norms of Regency England under Charlotte.

  9. In their latest book, The Typical Tudor, the Tudor Tailor people theorise that the white bands are folded towels or big pieces of very fine linen folded into strips. They cite a picture of Elizabeth and her ladies at a Maundy ceremony where they wear the towels very similarly. I tried this out when I was doing 1535 reenactment last year and based my costume on Holbein’s Alice More, and I have to say I was sceptical at first but am now convinced. A folded and pressed piece of very fine linen, a half yard by one and a half yards, hangs like the ones in the pictures. The idea is that the narrowness of the band is a flex, like, look how fine my linen is to be foldable like that!
    With that in mind, Anne Askew’s make no sense as they are a rather coarse linen, but at least they tried.

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