12 thoughts on “A Complete Unknown (2024)

  1. Haven’t watched it yet, but will soon. Going to love the clothes as I wore them through the 60s and don’t regret it (unlike the 70s and 80s). I grew up in the 1950s listening to The Weavers, so loved Pete Seeger and his amazing voice from a very early age. He was phenomenal in concert. Cousins gave me my first Joan Baez album for my fourteenth birthday. While I could admire Dylan’s poetry, I wasn’t quite such a fan, which you make sound like a wise choice.

    1. I remember when Seeger was still actively touring in the late-90s/early-2000s. He was such a lovely person, so willing to share music with literally anyone who approached him, so I’ll admit I feel very protective of him, even his portrayal in this film, lol.

      I was born in the 70s, but my mom is from the same generation as Dylan, so I grew up with his music, Seeger’s music, Baez’s music, the Guthries’ music (both Woody and Arlo), and every other folk, folk rock, and blues folk rock band/singer/songwriter from this period. It’s practically part of my DNA at this point.

  2. I agree wholeheartedly with everything that you said. Especially about Elle Fanning as Sylvia. Dylan’s real-life girlfriend at the time, Suze Rotolo, wrote a whole book about their relationship and she had agency and purpose unlike Sylvia who seemed to loose all of that after falling for Dylan who came across as a whiny child at times.

    1. You nailed my general issue with pretty much every film about a male artistic visionary, from Beethoven to Bob Dylan… the women in their lives get reduced to 2D props with no agency, no spark, nothing. I think the only film that didn’t do this, mainly because they COULDN’T without more or less erasing the female lead entirely, was Walk the Line. Can you imagine if June Carter Cash was portrayed as nothing more than a shadow in the wings?? LOL

  3. I did see it and it reminded me so much of Inside Llewyn Davis, where a folk musician in the 1960s wanders around being an asshole to everyone for no particular reason for 2 hours (ILD even has a (faux) young Bob Dylan cameo at the end). I love the fashions of 1960s New York but I’m in agreement with you that watching musicians be assholes, with no or only brief moments of accountability, because they’re creative geniuses holds little appeal for me (at least Rocketman made Elton work for his redemption).

  4. Reluctantly, I love Dylan’s early work. We knew he was a dick then because of the documentary he made, “Don’t Look Back.” But there’s no denying the quality of his work.
    However, watch the songwriter and member of the Bonzo Dogs, Neil Innes doing his impression of Dylan (it’s on YouTube). It’s impeccable. “I suffered for my music. Now it’s your turn.”

  5. And if you sew, the big three have 70s (and 80s) patterns under the tab ‘vintage.’ Including some I know I once sewed.
    My sister got rid of both the Biba outfit I made and my Pucci fabric dress.

    1. Your sister owes you! I thought the wardrobe for ACU was spot-on. (Barbaro’s efforts at being Baez were okay, but she would have made a better Mimi Baez Farina.)

  6. I find it fascinating to read women comment about how Dylan treats the women in the movie. Let’s stick to the movie, first. Joan is clearly the seductress who knows she can reach another level by getting first cracks at his songs. As for Sylvie, she breaks his heart in the film after convincing him to focus on his own music and the times. She breaks it off because as someone who is confident about her own place in the world cannot handle being a second fiddle to this mammoth star. Her choice. The reality only adds to this story. Suze actually tells him after six weeks that she will be away for six months (hence boots of Spanish leather). In her book she treasures her time with him but says she just couldn’t handle the public exposure. As to Baez, at Newport when she is about to sing it ain’t me babe with size in the wings, introduces the song by saying Dylan wrote it about a relationship that went on too long. nasty. No question Dylan in later years had his issues with women and could be criticized for that but, if you are sticking to the movie, he is a kid caught in a whirlwind with Sylvie and tries as best he can he can to deal with it.

  7. I really enjoyed this movie, and I think part of why was what you mentioned about the costumes, which I really loved. It felt immediate and real. I also grew up with all the music – my parents were in high school in the late 60s/early 70s – so that’s probably a big part of it. Dylan’s schmucky personality weighed the movie down a bit but Chalamet plays it so well, and it’s far enough outside his usual schtick that I was annoyed he didn’t win an Oscar (same re: Norton, who was so perfectly Pete Seeger, I’m still in awe).

  8. I came out of the cinema wishing it had been a movie about Pete Seeger and his family. I would watch Edward Norton play the nicest guy in folk music for days.

    Dylan, not so much.

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