21 thoughts on “WCW: Louise de La Vallière

  1. Agreed, Jenny Agutter for the win. And a big yes to a MCM for Richard Chamberlain (Aramis, Louis XIV, Philippe, Lord Byron,Tchaikovsky, Edmond Dantes, Alan Quatermain, Blackthorne, Ralph de Brisscart, and if you can find it, Thomas Mendip in the Ladies Not for Burning). Please also consider Patrick McGoohan for MCM, who was Fouquet in several Musketeers films, as well as in Jamaica Inn, Dr. Syn, James Stuart in Mary Queen of Scots, and, alas, Edward I in Braveheart.

  2. For Vatel, I think the pictures you’ve selected show the wife of the host (the man in the 2nd picture). Louise de la Valliere probably wouldn’t be lounging against any man not the king (and even then not in public).
    ‘une lavalliere’ is a word for a bow or ascot in French, because she was known for wearing many bows and frills at her neckline to cover the fact that she wasn’t well-endowed.

    1. In fact, the actress we see on those pictures is Arielle Dombasle and she plays “la Princesse de Condé”.

      1. Yes and considering her very… modern, housewivey looks, she has a surprisingly huge number of frock flicks under her belt.

        1. Oh and: Although you hate that kind of pointing out, gonna go there anyway, because it’s not the smallest of small parts and the series is pretty well worth checking out: She was played by Fabienne Tricottet in the 1995 french TV series “L’Allee du roi”. Sarah even did a big FrockFlicks-post on it already. There are two 2019 reissue French DVDs (edition montparnasse) available by now. A version integrale (miniseries length: 240′) and a version courte (feature film length: 105′) – it’s a euro thing. Don’t know if the double marketing actually pays off.


  3. man court life must’ve been so strange—institutionalized adultery. but I guess there must’ve been something to her faith to go leave it all behind for a cloister and contemplative life. interesting lady!

  4. Vatel would have had problems being a chef at Versailles, since he killed himself before Versailles was really a thing.
    Also, the squirrel and snake thing is about armorials: Fouquet had a squirrel on his, with the motto “quo non ascendet?” aka “how high can I climb?” (which may not have not been the smartest thing to trot in front of a young monarch that had been quite traumatized by rebellion and civil war in his early years, just sayin’). The grass snake is for Colbert, who really did all he could to fan fires, and became one architect of the sun king politics… And also one that launched one of the greatest period in French history.
    And yes, that’s Arielle Dombasle in those pics.

  5. Haven’t seen most of these. I first learned about Louise, probably the most unhappy of all Louis’ mistresses from a book called “Old Court Life In France.” many years ago.

  6. My favorite mistress of Louis XIV! A few anecdotes about her:
    -she had a limp after falling from her horse as a child, but rode and danced perfectly
    -she initially was a “chandelier”, a false lead to hide the King courting his sister in law, Henriette of England
    -when she became pregnant for the first time, she had to hide her pregnancy because of Henriette’s jealousy; when she gave birth, she had to wear a mask, the doctor was all but kidnapped and she had to be at mass later, then dance at the ball following. It was decided that she’d be delivered by a doctor since a midwife may gossip, and since he refused the usual position of the woman kneeling or squatting and the one dealing with the birth on his knees on the ground, he created the current childbirth position, which is now criticized for not being physiologically ideal
    -When her son died ( he had a sad life, since not only did he died before being totally legitimized, he was raped as a teen and despised by his father for that) she sadly said “it’s his birth I should cry for”
    -when she became a Carmelite, Montespan visited her and proposed to cook for her; knowing she was a poisoner, Louise asked for the scratches only and cooked herself a dish and its sauce. Montespan asked her if she was happy now, and she answered “No, but I am content.”
    -since Montespan was married, she considered pressuring Louise into pretending to be her children’s mother to have them legitimized
    -when she died, Louis said “she died for me on the day she became a Carmelite”. When their love was young and powerful, he gave up all her duties to search for her when she left her apartments for a convent when Henriette threatened to fire her because she believed she had revealed that Henriette had another lover.
    -Once, Montespan asked a dressmaker if she knew who she was to get her delivery, and the dressmaker answered “Of course! You bought Mademoiselle de la Vallières’s charge!”

    1. Oh, yeah! My ex was a historian, and we devised a soap opera starring popular crowned heads of mid-19th-century Europe: V&A, Napoleon III and Eugenie, Franz Josef and Sissi, Max and Carlotta over in the Mexico, etc.; everybody’s related, everybody’s dysfunctional. I still think “Masterpiece” could have fun with it.

  7. Agutter, de Monaghan and Jade look the most Louise-ish: less made-up, more like the sweet young thing she apparently was. (Although the shots of Ursula Andress as a sweet young thing are hilarious.)

  8. The latest Versailles series S01 should have expanded the role of La Valiere instead of focusing so much on Henrietta “Minette” Stuart… The actress, Sarah Winter, wore appropriate gowns & the hair looked 17th century (not like most of her “friend” Montespan’s hairstyles). Winter in 17th c. dress gave me some Nell Gwynn vibes, not because of “Versailles”‘s Louise’s personality, but because this is how I imagine Nell (pretty, smiling, redhead)

  9. Sorry to say that but the Vatel stills are Arielle Dombasle
    Le chateau perdu and 1977 man in iron mask are my favorite especially Jenny
    And a total yes for the Richard Chamberlein MCM

  10. I Remember Louise had a Biography film in 1922 and there was a louise in 1939’s Iron Mask with Joan Bennett as Maria Theresia and Doris Kenyon (1933 Voltaire) as Queen Anne

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