14 thoughts on “Elisa y Marcela (2019) Showcases Same-Sex Marriage

  1. Is it just me or do movies on gay relationships really lean more to girl on girl than guy on guy?

  2. I’m actually thinking of adding Netflix. This is another pro for my list. Not sure about keeping Hulu as it only has Harlots but I don’t believe it’s on DVD.

  3. Girls, I would like to ask you a question for a long time: Why are gay themes so important on your site (I have even the impression that if a gay theme is a major plot point in a film, you are not so strict about the costumes; correct me if I’m wrong)?
    Most heterosexuals I know (me included) are indifferent towards LGTB people, according to the saying “live and let live” (a gay man I fleetingly knew, preferred a neutral treatment, instead of pointing out that he was homosexual).

    1. “Most heterosexuals I know (me included) are indifferent towards LGTB people”

      That’s an interesting anecdote, but I’d counter by saying most people I know are not “indifferent” — they are welcoming & interested about lives & history that may vary from their own experience. Many people look to historical film & TV to learn about the breadth & depth of people’s lives in the past — & that includes queer stories, just as it includes stories about people of color.

      The past was not just white & straight, & we here at Frock Flicks are happy to see producers looking at more of the diversity of historical topics, instead of just rehashing the same old things (how many Jane Austen & Queen Elizabeth movies do we need, really?).

      Also, your editor-in-chief is a bisexual Asian-American so, hi, representation is important to me personally. Just because you “fleetingly” knew one gay man who, to you, didn’t want his identity pointed out, that could have been because of your attitude or the situation you met him in or for a million other reasons. We’re talking about film & TV representation here, & when 99.9% of films & TV shows only have white, straight storylines, it makes LGBTQ folks & people of color feel like we don’t matter as equal human beings worthy of having our stories told on screen.

      So yes, Frock Flicks will always review queer historical films (along with costume dramas featuring people of color). Because representation is important in history. Also, in case you didn’t notice, June is LGBTQ Pride Month, & this is the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots that kicked off the LGBTQ civil rights movement in the U.S. Google it — this is kind of a big deal.

      1. Trystan, I think that you have reacted kind of touchy here. I was just asking politely. I live in a country in Central Europe, where almost everybody is white and homosexuality was never punishable, so the LGBTQ civil rights movement is a foreign concept for me. Also because I’m from Central/Continental Europe, I didn’t know about the LGBTQ Pride Month and that there is a celebration of the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots (most people in Continental Europe don’t know that too). I was just curious why the topics of LGBTQ and people of color are important points on your site. That’s all. Thank you for your explanation, but keep in mind that not all of your readers come from English-speaking countries and your culture and hence some things might come across as unusual for them.

        1. PS.: I didn’t know that you were Asian-American, because to me you look Caucasian … When it comes to my attitude towards this gay guy, his sexuality didn’t matter to me, because for me he was just a good costume designer in the first place. So there is no need to get irritated (if you got irritated of course; communication via the Internet is ambiguous …)

          1. Just trying to point out that your admittedly incidental interaction with one person is not necessarily representative of whole groups of people or a whole category of history. Just like one white-passing chick on the internet (like me, hah) is not representative of a whole culture. But we try to learn & listen to more perspectives :)

            1. I’m relieved that I didn’t hurt you. That would be the last thing I would like to do. I’m glad that everything is clear now and that we have reached an understanding :-).

        2. Check your history more closely — where in “central Europe”? Because Germany put homosexuals from all over Europe in the concentration camps. Same-sex activity is only ‘not punishable’ in EU member countries, & that does not include same-sex marriage or adoption by same-sex couples. These laws were only passed by the EU in 1999. Before that, same-sex activity was illegal in most European countries before the 1960s-1990s.

          So while I mentioned Stonewall specifically, because that is why June is LGBTQ Pride Month, it’s Pride Month worldwide, not just in the U.S. because that seminal historical event helped kick off a worldwide movement. And, as a site dedicated to history, I feel it’s important to consider everyone’s history.

          1. If you have to know, I come from Poland to be exact, a country where homosexual activity was never punishable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Poland). Many people are conservative here (but not as conservative as US-American conservatives or evangelicals; I wonder what you think about them) and there are very few people, who are not white, hence the points mentioned above come across as unusual for me. As I have written before, I just wanted to get information about the reasons for character of your site. This information did I get and would like to thank you for that. It wasn’t my intention to upset you and I would be sad, if you you understood it that way.

            1. Do note the rest of that Wikipedia entry how Poland has continually refused to legalized same-sex marriage & even civil unions — exactly what this film review was about. And a quick peruse of the latest news shows that Poland’s current government is trying to push an anti-LGBTQ agenda. So is America’s.

              Again, these are all reasons we need to recognize films & TV shows that explore queer history & seek to understand the lives of people who may be different than us. Because honestly, we have more in common than we think.

              1. Trystan, I like your last sentence. I namely thought that LGBTQ people are a hermetic group, who don’t like the interest of “outsiders” in them …

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